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Sai Baba bukan awatara!

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behh wak bingung neeee....

semua bilang benar.,,, semua bilang hebat,,,
:D
coba ingat2 , klo memang masi mengaku jadi orang hindu bali mari bercermin dengan tatwam asi.....
kan selalu setiap akhir sembahyang ato setiap akhir bertemu slalu ngucapin
om santi santi santi om.......(percuma)
dadi berbeda pendapat tapi jangan sampai kita berbelah gara-gara awatara....
OK BOSSS JOKO LOKO,LANJUTKAN PERJUANGANMU UNTUK
MENJAGA HINDU BALI BERDASARKAN BANTEN,SAYA YANG PALING DIDEPAN BILA ADA YANG MERUBAH BANTEN (JANGAN TERLALU EKSTRIM BOSSS) BUAT MENGIKUT SAI BABA JANGAN SAMPAI MELUPAKAN BANTEN DAN LELUHUR. KITA LAHIR ANGGO BANTEN N MATI MASI BANTEN ANGGO MRAGATIN AJAK KOMPOR.....:D

"HIDUP HINDU BALI.... JAGA AGAMA N TRADISI MAHA AGUNG INI"
YG TAK ADA SATU PUN DIDUNIA

sajan.. seperti @Sangut bilang...
ada punya timpal/teman, tidak tahu apa sebab meninggalkan banten dan sempat bilang "aku tidak perlu banten lagi dan tidak perlu maturan banten lagi".

Ketika tempo waktu dia meninggal, keluarga besarnya sempat bingung, karena dia sudah lama tidak rungu/tidak mengakui keberadaan sanggah gede (pura keluarganya). Dan secara tegas keluar dari kegiatan Pura dan Adat.

Fenomena seperti ini kalau diperhatikan adalah apa pun agama tradisional yang telah diikuti oleh orang-orang modern sekarang ini dengan istilah-istilah yang lama, namun yang pasti orang-orang modern telah menciptakan kesadaran batin khusus untuk dirinya sendiri (hanya menjalankan seradanya tanpa melakukan nyadnya).

Apa lacur, ahirnya proses pengabenan pun dilakukan sesuai agama Hindu Dharma.
Karena apa yang dia ikuti sebagai jalan modern belum memiliki proses Check Out.

Otonomi individu ini menyebabkan agama tradisional kehilangan kekuatannya di antara para pengikutnya.

Padahal agama tradisional / Hindu Dharma sudah memiliki proses Check IN dan Check Out yang sudah digariskan secara jelas berdasarkan nilai suci weda, serta bersifat sosial religius.

Menyikapi penomena ini kita harus bersabar.
 
@JakaLoco

bos,….maksud ati mau membantu bos tapi kok lacur ya? link bukti yg sebenarnya aku copy dari blognya orang...salahnya aku ndak baca ampe abis isi linknya. aku kira isinya benar tentang bukti2 sai baba itu sebagai tukang sulap ndak tahunya yg ngasi link di blog itu ternyata pro ama sai baba boss. dia baru ksh komen ulang bilang maksudnya sai baba itu nyulap dunia yg buruk jadi katanya lebih baik setelah ada yg protes ama dia. bukti link itu aku copy bawa ke sini ndak pake baca isinya ampe selesai (isinya terlalu panjang sih) jadinya aku yg blog.

aku khabur aja deh boss.....sudh pasti boss ndak percaya lagi dgn aku. jangan menyerah akan perjuangan boss...aku akn tetap mengenang boss sbg orang baik yg dah mau berteman ama aku.
 
wah kok forum ini kayak flame arena jadi saling menjatuhkan dan menjelekkan............................
kita agama hindu sudah minoritas jadi jangan buat perpecahan antara sesama. Sebaiknya kita gunakan forum ini untuk saling mendukung dan saling sharing tentang ajaran hindu.
mengenai apakah seseorang adalah avatar.. wah itu kita serahkan pada keyakinan masing-masing. Biarlah pertanyaan itu dijawab hanya oleh hati nurani kita tidak perlu kita menjadikannya sebagai sumber perdebatan publik.
( sudah tradisi lumrah bagi masyarakat hindu india menganggap para suci/rishi/swami sebagai avatar coba baca buku "tradisi 18 siddar').
saya pribadi merasakan betapa minimnya wadah untuk mendalamin hindu semakin banyak samprdaya dan organisasi keagamaan baik itu berkiblat ke bali india ato jawa tentu akan lebih mewarnai kehidupan spiritual kita.

hindu adalah agama kebebasan
hindu tidak mengenal dogma

:)terima kasih
Om shanti shanti shanti
 
wah kok forum ini kayak flame arena jadi saling menjatuhkan dan menjelekkan............................
kita agama hindu sudah minoritas jadi jangan buat perpecahan antara sesama. Sebaiknya kita gunakan forum ini untuk saling mendukung dan saling sharing tentang ajaran hindu.
mengenai apakah seseorang adalah avatar.. wah itu kita serahkan pada keyakinan masing-masing. Biarlah pertanyaan itu dijawab hanya oleh hati nurani kita tidak perlu kita menjadikannya sebagai sumber perdebatan publik.
( sudah tradisi lumrah bagi masyarakat hindu india menganggap para suci/rishi/swami sebagai avatar coba baca buku "tradisi 18 siddar').
saya pribadi merasakan betapa minimnya wadah untuk mendalamin hindu semakin banyak samprdaya dan organisasi keagamaan baik itu berkiblat ke bali india ato jawa tentu akan lebih mewarnai kehidupan spiritual kita.

hindu adalah agama kebebasan
hindu tidak mengenal dogma

:)terima kasih
Om shanti shanti shanti


Setuju banget..

@TS
Gimana nich... apa dilanjutin atau sudah dapat jawaban & kita close aja ?
 
@all

ampura...
hahaha JakaLoco is in the house yo...gw balik lagi nich!
maaf gw sedikit sibuk banyak hari raya (Saraswati,Pagerwesi,Purnama,Soma Ribek)...
maklum gw taat ama agama gw Hindu Bali...
buat yg taat ama agamanya jgn lupa sembahyang di hari Tumpek Landep yach!

@igedeanunya
jgn khawatir bro...
gw juga gak ngebaca link2 yg lo kasi alna terlalu panjang..mata gw ampe kelilipan...
pokoke maju teruz pantang mundur...

@imherehayum

roh yg mencapai kesempurnaan disebut Budha atau Moksa dlm Hindu...
kalo sai baba bilang dirinya Budha gak masalah..tapi kalo dia bilang dirinya Siddharta Gautama, Khrisna, ato Rama itu masalah besar!
dan itulah yg terjadi...
dia mengatakan >> "Khrisna dan Rama yg sama ada di sini..."
berbohong untuk kebenaran memang baik..tapi kebaikan itu akan ditutupi oleh kebejatan krn menyembah manusia yg tidak pantas disembah...
itulah yg terjadi pada pengikut2 sai baba menjadikan manusia sbg Tuhan!
seberapapun baik hidup anda di dunia tapi anda menyembah manusia..weleh2 rugi!
 
gw denger gosip katanya sai baba uda sakit2an gak bisa jalan? bener gak tuh??
 
gw denger gosip katanya sai baba uda sakit2an gak bisa jalan? bener gak tuh??

masa sich?
gak taw juga bro...
dalam beberapa bukunya yg gw baca sich katanya dia mati tahun 2012..
truz reinkarnasi menjadi sai prema...
tapi kayaknya dia bakal mati lebih cepet ato hidup lama tapi tersiksa & menderita!
 
wahhh saya baru ikut forum ini, salam semuanya... mmm mnurut saya, biarin aja ada pngikut sai baba, toh sai baba, (setau saya ga ngajar sesat tuh, sperti membunuh, menghina org lain, iri dengki dan ego. karena di byk kawan2 dan sodara pngikut sai baba, jadi saya ikut membaca buku2 nya), lagian sai baba mengerti weda. karena saya punya weda di rumah(lengkap terjemahan english hehehe). trus biarin aja klo awatar ga di percaya, itu lumrah kok, sri krisna aja ga ada yg percaya klo dia awatar sewaktu dia hidup...(arjuna aja taunya blakangan klo krisna itu awatar), trus budha jg bgitu. klo di agama lain jg bgitu (yesus) ini udah pnyakit manusia di dunia klo org suci baru diakuin setelah mninggal.. dah gitu baru deh nyesel...saya sih santai2 aja... ga pro ato kontra.. tetapi saya menghargai para pngikut sai baba.. karena kita sama2 hindu, ingat!!! kita bkn sperti agama lain yg beda aliran saja bisa saling berantem, hindu tidak mengajarkan itu.
 
mmmm maaf ya bro TS, sejujurnya saya agak tidak suka dengan cara/pmikiran TS, karena saya ingin Hindu di Indonesia itu rukun, kita itu dah minoritas!jgn saling menghina, mnurut saya, itu bukan hindu (hindu sgt melarang sifat ego)..lagian jangan trlalu ajum sama ke-bali-an, karena blum tentu org hindu di indonesia mau mengikuti adat bali, krn saya punya rekan hindu cianjur.(ada lho, masih asli) dia ga mau ngikutin hindu bali, krn hindu di indonesia trlalu dipaksain dgn adat bali(kata dia lho). pokoknya kita harus rukun sesama hindu deh, biar dunia tau klo hindu tuh pnuh warna, dan bersolidaritas tinggi ga kyk agama2 lain yg saling nyerang dan memaksa ajarannya. ok bro??
 
mmmm maaf ya bro TS, sejujurnya saya agak tidak suka dengan cara/pmikiran TS, karena saya ingin Hindu di Indonesia itu rukun, kita itu dah minoritas!jgn saling menghina, mnurut saya, itu bukan hindu (hindu sgt melarang sifat ego)..lagian jangan trlalu ajum sama ke-bali-an, karena blum tentu org hindu di indonesia mau mengikuti adat bali, krn saya punya rekan hindu cianjur.(ada lho, masih asli) dia ga mau ngikutin hindu bali, krn hindu di indonesia trlalu dipaksain dgn adat bali(kata dia lho). pokoknya kita harus rukun sesama hindu deh, biar dunia tau klo hindu tuh pnuh warna, dan bersolidaritas tinggi ga kyk agama2 lain yg saling nyerang dan memaksa ajarannya. ok bro??

Sayang sekali aliran sai baba gak bisa dikatakan sebagai Hindu...
bukankah penganut sai baba ad yg Budha, Muslim, Kristen..lalu apakah mereka dengan ikut sai baba bisa disebut Hindu????apakah mereka maw disebut Hindu?
Kalo anda mengatakan Hindu Bali itu miliknya orang Bali aj anda salah besar...
sebaiknya anda telusuri apa yang dimaksud dgn BALI...kalo gak salah sodara goesdun udah panjang lebar ngasi informasi ttg ini..coba dech lo telusuri threadnya di forum ini...
kalo di Jawa, Amerika, planet Mars, Cianjur agama Hindunya pake banten maka mereka adl Hindu Bali...pulau Bali disebut Bali karena banten ini..jadi banten/wali/bali lebih dulu ad dibandingkan sebutan pulau dan orang Bali!
lagipula Nabi2 besar Hindu Bali pun bukan orang Bali seperti Mpu Kuturan dan Dang Hyang Dwijendra yang berasal dari Jawa Timur...
sebaiknya anda pelajari dulu sejarah BALI...
walopun sai baba aliran sesat adakah umat Hindu khususnya di Bali yang nyerang mereka??gak ad khan??
 
jakaloco nak bali ni ? adi sing cara nak palsu. pasti sing taen idup di bali ni
 
jakaloco nak bali ni ? adi sing cara nak palsu. pasti sing taen idup di bali ni

Yen nulis sesuatu ento ane jelas nah!Raga sing ngerti maksud bline...
mai adu ke-Bali-an raga..de cuma munyi gen..
judul thread ne berkaitan ajak sai baba...so bli harus posting ane bermutu...
 
betul bet JakaLoco....
wew...
u p'cya YESUS... >:D<
jadi firman TUHAN bilang, YESUS akan datang kembali seperti DIA naik...
So, si BABA ntu bilang klo dia bakal lahir lagi(reinkarnasi) jadi YESUS, padahal yg bner khan YESUS turun bukan lahir lagi...

btw AWATAR ntu AVATAR...?
kayak AANG dunx...
AANG khan botak...
he...he...
 
betul bet JakaLoco....
wew...
u p'cya YESUS... >:D<
jadi firman TUHAN bilang, YESUS akan datang kembali seperti DIA naik...
So, si BABA ntu bilang klo dia bakal lahir lagi(reinkarnasi) jadi YESUS, padahal yg bner khan YESUS turun bukan lahir lagi...

btw AWATAR ntu AVATAR...?
kayak AANG dunx...
AANG khan botak...
he...he...

Yooo..gw percaya Kristus 100%!
Yesus turun sebagai Imam Mahdi/ Kalki Awatara..bukan sebagai sai baba kribo manusia sesat!

Awatara ama Avatar tuch sama aj cuma beda ejaan aj..
kalo Awatara ejaan Indonesia kalo Avatar ejaan India..
si Aang tuch Awatara jadi2an hahahaha...:P
 
Dialog ma pengikut SAI BABA


:-O

Waw, excellent...

Firman Tuhan bilang, "Sebab jika kamu mengaku dengan mulutmu, bahwa Yesus adalah Tuhan, dan percaya dalam hatimu, bahwa Allah telah membangkitkan Dia dari antara orang mati, maka kamu akan diselamatkan."

tapi, jangan hanya sebagai IMAM az dunx...

Lebih dari itu taw...!

Btw, w ckrg iqut forumna si SAI, ngobrol2 ma org INDIA sono...

Ribet y, pake bahasa INGGRIS :P ...

SENGIT BET...

W DIKROYOK...

He...he...
 
Namaskar.
This is real experience of one person with the so called Sai Baba. He was a Hindu Swami. As anybody knows, it is very rare for Swami from orthodox school of Hinduism come to see Sai Baba. Any respected Acharya in majority of Hindu Society didn't give so much respect to the Sai Baba. So if there was one such a swami in Prashanti Nilayam (Sai Baba's palatial abode), surely he would bcm some kind of celebrities. Atmananda Swami (now Sri Atmatattva Dasa) was one of them. I don't know, may be the Sai Baba's followers has denied the true occurance of such a meeting. But it is hardly to unbelieved this story.

I'll begin by introducing Sri Atmatattva Dasa, the person who told us the story of his experience with Sai Baba.
[Sri Atmatattva Dasa, though born in an orthodox family of 32 generations of priests to the Kerala royal family, he himself was unconventional, defiant of tradition and positively iconoclastic in his view in the early days of his life. At a young age he renounced the world (as a self ordained sannyas-ascetic, named Atmaananda Swami) and undertook a seeking journey to the hills of the mystic Himalayas in search of spiritual life. While living a life of austerity in the caves of the Himalayas he studied under various spiritual masters and received their divine guidance. By the arrangement of the Divine, he met his sat guru, Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, in 1976 and received initiation from him on the holy appearance of Srimati Radharani. The outcome was a learned and humble teacher who understood and accepted the different facets of life with a spiritual awareness, who helped others to get a glimpse into eternal life of perennial joy while solving the problems of this world in the most practical manner. Sri Atmatattva Das is a renowned authority on subtle sciences, vedic history and spiritual mysticism. He is a veritable walking encyclopedia of Indian scriptures. Individuals and spiritual institutions have been attracted by his astounding memory of texts, exceptional narrative skills and his intense dedication to preaching the message of Lord Krishna. In 1976 he undertook a Padayatra (walking journey) across the length and breadth of India, which lasted for two years, educating children in the rural areas about spiritual life; and in 1991 he founded the Bhaktivedanta Academy for educating society in the ancient spiritual sciences found in the Vedic literatures. At present he travels throughout South India conducting courses on the Vedic teachings, helping to respiritualize human society.]

Now the story begin, in Atmatattva's own word:

The first welcome I got upon my arrival at Sai Baba's ashram was from a large group of ragged beggars sitting outside the front gate. Past them, flocks of well-off people crowded into the compound; that meant Sai Baba was here now. I viewed this scene with decidedly mixed feelings.
"He is supposed to be God", I considered, "and his followers say he has the power to remove misfortune, disease and poverty - so why are these beggars loitering here just outside his own house? And if his disciples are really so blessed, why don't they do something more for these poor people than just give them a few coins?"

With these misgivings, I entered the spacious and rather beautiful ashram compound. In the middle stood Sai Baba's residence, a large apricot-colored building called the Mandir; before it, on a stretch of sandy soil called the 'darshan area', perhaps a thousand people sat on their haunches in rows, waiting for Sai Baba to appear on the upper-floor balcony. Beyond the crowd was a round, roofed stage, the Shanti Vedika. Nearby that, pilgrims were camped in large open sheds.
Other buildings, arrayed around the compound wall, faced the Mandir. I noticed a small hospital. I'd heard that just by eating the holy ash (vibhuti) that Sai Baba mysteriously produces from his hand, the diseases of the faithful were cured. Reading the sign listing the visiting hours of the doctors, I wondered why, if he had the power to cure with ash, he needed a hospital staffed with Western-trained physicians.

A big, bearded and bright-turbaned Sikh came walking past the darshan area. I fell in step with him and asked where he was going, and he told me he was on the way to the canteen to get something to eat. We got to talking; he asked me about myself, and I told him I'd left everything for spiritual life. "I am searching for God," I said with a mild smile, "so I came to see if God is really here."
He flashed a mischievous grin. "Well, I don't believe in any of these so-called avatars, but I happened to be on business nearby and somebody told me Sai Baba is God, so I just dropped in here to see what this God is up to." He chuckled. Then he looked at me quizzically and asked, "You have no money?"
"No", I replied.
Stopping, he held up a forefinger and declared sonorously, "Don't worry, God is here, and he will not feed you." We both burst out laughing.
Still laughing, I said, "Well, God may not feed me, but you are here, so why don't you buy me breakfast?"
"Oh, no problem", he exclaimed heartily. Slapping me on the back, he lead me into the canteen. "What's your name?"
"Swami Atmananda."
"Oh, you're a swami?"
"Yes, I just became swami yesterday." We had another big laugh.
The canteen served the usual South Indian fare of idli, dosa and sambar. I was ravenous, and the Sikh was obliging. "Eat up," he urged, ordering more dosas for me, "because God won't feed you, and I'm leaving in half an hour. Whatever you want, you take. Don't worry." I packed it in, and he paid for it happily.

Coming out of the canteen, he pointed me to the inquiry office, telling me if I had any questions, I could get them answered there. We bade each other fond farewells. Then I entered the office and browsed through some of the books on display there. From a volume of his lectures on the Ramayana, I gleaned that Sai Baba's teachings consisted of standard Advaitist platitudes and little else. Well aware that Advaita philosophy is the de rigueur of all popular Hindu gurus, I was not impressed.
Putting the book back, I asked a man in the office if there was a room I might have. This gentleman, Mr. N. K., turned out to be the chief assistant to Sai Baba in the ashram. He answered my question by quoting the prices of guest facilities.
"But I have no money. I want to stay here for two weeks. Can't you give me a place to live?"
"I am so sorry," N.K. answered with resigned finality, "but we don't have such arrangements. If you wish to stay for free, you may kindly move into the pilgrims' sheds."
I changed the subject. "I'd like to see Sai Baba. Is there a way to do that?"
"Oh," he smiled benevolently, "seeing God is not so easy. Just see..." he motioned towards the darshan area where the crowd sat expectantly in the sun. "Today they've been waiting for two hours. Some have been here for months, not leaving. No one knows when he will come down to see them. It is all divine."

Leaving Mr. N.K., I entered the darshan area and sat down in a vacant space in one of the rows. On my right was a Chettiar (a member of the Tamil merchant community). He started telling me about a daughter of his who could not speak; he'd left home and business "to get the God to give her a voice. I've been here seven days - no darshan! My time has not come. I don't know what I will do now." His lips quivered and he abruptly turned away, his eyes brimming with tears.
All I could think was, "What am I doing here?" I stood up and left the compound through the gate. I walked down the sandy road to some whitewashed buildings ahead of me and noticed a cloth shop that had a 'Lodging' sign above a side entrance. Inside were four rooms for rent. Not seeing anyone, I sat down on the steps outside.
I was considering how gullible these Sai Baba followers seemed to be when a man came out of one of the rooms as if to leave. I greeted him with "Sai Baba" and he echoed my greeting.
I asked him, "What are you doing here and what prayer do you have?"
He was a bit astonished at my cryptic question and knelt down next to me, asking excitedly, "Where is Swami from?"
I made another mysterious statement: "Swami is from wherever he is. Just tell me - what is your prayer?"
He was flustered. "Oh, but Swami knows my prayer."
I gazed at him stonily. "That may be, but still we should say our prayers openly."
He was trembling when he answered. "I am doing a big business, and I am not sure what is the outcome, so I need blessings."
I paused, mysteriously surveying the sky as if consulting the gods. Then riveting him again with my eyes, I asked, "What time do you go for darshan?"
"Oh, I was thinking of going now, but I've heard there are so many people. I have tried six times to see Sai Baba. I'm not complaining, you understand, it must be my sinful karma, but my time has not come."
I said with finality, "I want to go with you for darshan. Also, where are you staying?"
"I am staying here. The owner of this shop is my relative."
"I want to stay with you. I have no place."
"Oh, certainly! I should be very happy to have a swami stay with me. Swamis don't often come here, because they don't understand that Sai Baba is God. Only very rarely is it revealed to them that the God they are seeking is Sai Baba. So you please come with me."
He took me into his room and asked about my bags. I answered disdainfully, "The whole world is my bag." I refreshed myself and took a light nap. Then we both went to the darshan area.
We sat down in the first row. I could not help but think how foolish all this was: "If these people think that they can't see Sai Baba because their time hasn't come, then who is more powerful, time or him?"

Suddenly he appeared on the balcony, holding up his right palm in the abhaya-mudra blessing. I observed him intently. After seeing how easy it was to influence his disciples, I wanted learn more. Somewhere in the back of my mind a plan was brewing.
His long frizzy hair formed a black halo around his face. He wore a long-sleeved iridescent orange silk gown that reached to the floor. He flitted downstairs quickly like a wraith. I watched his walk, his gestures, his facial expressions. He moved ever nearer to me along the first row, taking letters from people and holding them in his left hand. Finally he went past on to the end.

I noted that as he went down the row he motioned a few people to stand. Mr. N.K. quickly gathered them in a group.
Without going on to the seven rows behind, Sai Baba came back the same way. He stopped in front of my new roommate and looked at him closely. My friend stared back goggle-eyed, his Adam's apple bobbing in his throat. Abruptly Sai Baba turned away from him and looked at me, motioning with his finger that I should stand. I really didn't know what was going on, because this was my first time here.
My friend was bursting with excitement: "Oh, you have been called! Sai Baba has granted your interview! Please, can you mention my case to him? Ask a blessing for me!" As I got up, he touched my feet. N.K. directed me to join the other chosen ones.
Meanwhile Sai Baba passed swiftly through the other rows, almost as if he was floating. After finishing, he came back our way and nodded to Kasturi, saying in Telegu, "Send them up." Then he went upstairs.
I walked up right behind him with Kasturi. As he reached the balcony at the top of the stairs, Sai Baba threw all the letters into a big metal cannister. Then he turned left and went inside his quarters. Kasturi showed us into the interview room on the right. There were six of us. We sat down on sofas to wait....
 
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....Sai Baba entered the interview room through a door that opened from his quarters. Everybody rose with palms joined in pranam-mudra. Out of politeness, I also got up. I had a close look at his eyes; they seemed staring and unfocused.
He gave ash to a couple of people - I saw it clearly materialize from his fingers. Near me stood a girl of about ten with her father. When Sai Baba came to her he set two earrings that just appeared in his hands into the lobes of her ears. Father and daughter gasped in astonishment, for her ears had not been pierced before. Now they were, and hung with gold.
Seeing this feat, everyone cried "Sai Baba! Sai Baba!" in great wonderment. Then, without acknowledging me with so much as a glance, he turned back and exited from whence he came.

A moment later N.K. came in through the same door and announced, "The interview is over; everyone should go now. He did not speak with you, but you are very fortunate, for you saw a miracle of Sai Baba's power." He waved everybody to the door that opened on the balcony, and we stood to leave.
I followed the father and daughter, but N.K. stopped me with an outstretched hand. "Please continue to sit. Sai Baba wants you to wait here comfortably." I nodded, a bit nonplussed, and retook my seat. As soon as the room was cleared, Sai Baba came in again. This time he looked different.
He didn't have that entranced, almost dazed look I'd seen on his face before. Now he appeared completely normal and relaxed. I thought irreverently, "This is interesting: mad looks for the masses."
He stood in front of me. This time I didn't get up. Speaking in Sanskrit, he asked me how I was feeling and if everything was all right. I replied in Tamil, "I do not know Sanskrit; please speak to me in your native tongue." He switched to his Telegu and asked the same question. Conversation was now possible, because Telegu and Tamil are quite similar.
I answered, "By God's grace, everything is alright. I have a place to stay, and my plan is to visit the ashram for two weeks." He walked around the room as if in thought and came back to me.
"You say you want to visit for two weeks?" I nodded.
"What is your mission?"
Remembering what I'd told the Sikh, I replied, "I am looking for God."
He suddenly smiled and half-raised his arms, turning the palms of his hands in my direction in what I guessed was a benison. Bending his body slightly at the knees, hips and shoulders, he tilted his head coyly to one side and uttered in a silky voice, "If you can't find God here, where will you find Him?"
I was not very impressed by this little show, and was beginning to feel uncomfortable. "Well, I'll be here for some time, and I hope to meet with you more..." I mumbled. He looked at me intently and said, "Any time you want, you can see me."

Just then a servant appeared in the doorway to his apartment and gave a signal. Sai Baba waved him off. He turned to me again and asked, "Aren't you hungry?"
It was just about lunchtime, so I answered, "I wouldn't mind to eat something now, but of course I have to arrange that somebody gives me biksha."
He smiled magnanimously. "Eat with me."
I couldn't hide my surprise and I thanked him. He went through the door and I followed. We came into a room that looked like a place for confidential talks. We sat down on both sides of a small round table.
Through a large entranceway I could see into his bedroom. I noted some of the paraphernalia of God: a plush bed, an alarm clock and some medicine bottles on a nightstand, and, behind a half-open door, a flush toilet.
He nonchalantly sang something to himself as the servant brought the lunch on a serving tray. The meal consisted of utma (vegetables fried with farina), achar (hot pickle), fried eggplant and coffee.
The utma, to my surprise, was flavored with onions; I knew that strict sadhus shunned onions, as this food gives rise to passions. Coffee, an intoxicant, would likewise be considered a worldly indulgence. But apparently Sai Baba did not care for these rules. And neither did I, for I'd not been given sannyasa under vows to a guru.
We finished. He got up to wash and gargle, and I did the same. Then with his customary benign smile he nodded his head, indicating that I could go.

As I came down the staircase, I saw the people still sitting in rows, now gazing at me with open mouths. My friend the roommate rushed up to me with a look of awed ecstasy fixed on his face. Others were running up behind him as we met at the bottom of the stairs.
He eagerly inquired, "What happened? After the interview the others came down but Sai Baba kept you with him."
I said with a nonchalant shrug, "Oh, I had lunch with him, that's all."
Suddenly it seemed two hundred people were mobbing me. I was pulled towards a fancy lodging block and ended up in a big air-conditioned apartment with a roomful of rich people sitting in front of me. They had locked the door and were guarding it because a big crowd had gathered outside.
It was practically an interrogation session: "What about the miracle with the earrings? And what did Sai Baba say to you?" But I sat silent and serene in the big plush chair they'd given me. In my mind, I was gloating at my sudden change of fortune. I wondered if I could exploit this situation further. I had to find out what being God was really like. "Just do it," the opportunist within myself crowed. "It's not a sin; you're just giving them faith in something higher. This is the life you've been waiting for."
Ignoring their babble, in the relaxed and self-assured manner I'd picked up from him, I began singing "Chitta Chora" (Thief of My Mind), a very well-known Sai Baba song. The entire group froze in a hush. Then one by one they started clapping and singing along enthusiastically until the whole room was in an uproar. The song completed, again I was silent. The proverbial pin would have sounded like a car crash.
Finally, I spoke, softly: "What do you want from me? I am a beggar."
"Swami," came the answer, "you're one of those rare swamis who has accepted Sai Baba as God. Sai Baba has said this is very extraordinary, because he is hiding from those who are engaged in religious and spiritual life. He says that at the end of their sadhana he gives them the darshan they expect - if they worship Rama, he'll appear to them as Rama. If they worship Shiva, he'll come to them as Shiva. But as Sai Baba, only very fortunate people can see him."
I closed my eyes. "But to me", I murmered, "he is simply a guide."
Somebody from the back exclaimed, "Ah-hah, what a vision! His guide!" I began to perceive that whatever I said here would be accepted as "nectarean truth."
Just then a curtain that covered the opened glass door to the balcony moved in the breeze. Seeing this, two ladies in the crowd began to weep. "Sai Baba! Sai Baba is here with us right now!", they sobbed.
Now I could really see how it worked. One didn't have to do anything. Such foolish people would create their own "miracle", propagate it, and make you God.

My friend was there in the crowd, close by. He urged, "Swami, please tell us your experience with Sai Baba."
"Everybody was sent out," I began, "but Mr. N.K. asked me to remain seated, and Sai Baba came to me. He spoke to me in Sanskrit."
They all looked at each other with wide-open eyes. I heard murmurings of "Sanskrit! Veda! Veda coming out of his mouth."
I continued on, even to the point of standing up to show them the pose he made when he said, "If you can't find God here, where will you find him?" And I told them how he said anytime I wanted I could have darshan. They hung onto every word.
My friend asked, "Did you speak to him about me?" I shook my head solemnly. He whined, "But I requested you to do that."
I answered with gravity, "Either you understand he's God, or you understand he's an ordinary person. If you think he's God, then he knows. If you think he's an ordinary person, you shouldn't be here. Why should anyone have to recommend your case?"
Someone exclaimed, "That's the exact thing Sai Baba says! 'If you think I am God, then why don't you have faith, and if you don't think I am, then why are you here?' Sai Baba speaks the same thing!"
Another lady called from the back, "Swami, one more song? Some nectar for our ears?" So I sang a song about Vishnu, one Sai Baba also sings but which is not his composition. As the afternoon drew on I got hungry. They brought me to the canteen and of course, paid for everything.

As it turned out, my friend had also became a celebrity with these rich people because of his relationship to me. They flocked to him to get my attention, and they flocked to me to get Sai Baba's attention.
Despite my hidden cynicism about the 'God' of the ashram, I was yet quite drawn to him because he had pulled it off so well. Having renounced worldly aspirations, I'd found here a whole new temptation. Nothing arouses ambition in the heart like the fame of another, and though I was loathe to admit it to myself, I envied this 'God'. The curious thing was that my crass imitation of Sai Baba's behavior was thought by his followers to be devotion to him.
I was to find out that he thought that way too.

A day or so later I asked my friend to take me around the village. We went to the Chitravati river, but since it was the dry season there was no water, just a sand channel.
On a rocky mound near the riverbed stood a tamarind tree from which the Sai Baba is said to have magically plucked mangos and other fruits during his youth. I clambered up the rocks and sat beneath it. At the time I was not aware of the significance the Sai Baba's followers attached to this tree; I only happened to go there because it looked like a suitable spot for meditation. I sat in the lotus pose, and my friend sat next to me. With closed eyes I visualized Lord Rama, God's avatar as the prince who defeated the demon Ravana.
When I opened my eyes my friend was sitting close with his hands folded and a doglike look in his eyes, as if expecting some teaching or order from me. He looked so utterly helpless that I had to pity him. I figured the best thing I could do was to get him out of the village, for here his foolishness would only increase.
"You should to go to Bangalore, where Sai Baba has his smaller center. There will be no interview for you here."
He asked despondently, "Swami, what paap (sin) have I done?"
"You've done many", I replied. He shivered. "But just do this - go to Bangalore. And Sai Baba may yet see you there." In the back of my mind I was thinking, "You fool, can't you see you're neither rich enough nor unusual enough - like me - to get the Sai Baba's attention?"
Within a few days he left, after arranging with the shop owner my continued stay in his room.

On another day's stroll, I stopped at an old Satyabhama temple on the outskirts of the village. This temple was established by the Sai Baba's grandfather, Kondama Raju. It is said that his son Pedda prayed here for a second male child; subsequently, a boy was born who got the name Satya Narayana, known later as Sai Baba.
I found it curious that the temple was in need of repairs as if it was neglected by the Sai Baba's followers. By a strange coincidence, I'd arrived at the same time as the Sai Baba's older brother, who had come to visit the temple from his home nearby.
I asked him about his famous sibling: "Do you think he is God?"
He waved his hand impatiently. "This is sinful", he said with faint disgust. "That's a big mistake he's making, and God will punish him for it. He was stung by a scorpion when he was a boy, and after that time started babbling about being the Sai Baba.
"It may be that when he was stung that baba came into his body," the brother continued, "but no matter what happened, for him to claim he is Rama and Krishna is wrong. In our family we worship Rama and Krishna as God, but he has taken that position for himself."
"When his time comes, he will be punished for this blasphemy."
The significance of the brother's final statement was not lost on me.
I'd become an overnight junior celebrity at the ashram; in my yellow cloth I stood out in the crowd, and the news that I'd eaten lunch with the Sai Baba had spread like wildfire throughout the compound. I often entertained the crowd by singing the Sai Baba's songs in the style I'd learned from him. Twice daily, different rich men fed me at the canteen. Yet despite the attention I was enjoying, I was growing restless. I'd declared myself a seeker of God, but the easy life here diverted me from my intended goal.

On the seventh day, an excited N.K. came up to me in the canteen.
"Sai Baba wants to speak to you."
"Should I go to the darshan place?"
"No, you just go up to his quarters."
"What, right now? Just walk in?"
"He's there waiting to see you!" N.K. was almost frantic, so exasperated was he with my quibbling. "Please, you just immediately go to him! Even I'm not getting such chance of close contact to Sai Baba!"
So, very casually, as if it was the most natural thing in the world, I walked up the stairs to the interview room and sat down. He didn't come out. Finally I just strolled into the front room where we'd eaten together. But he was not there either. I looked in his bedroom.

On the bed he faced me, reclining on his side, his head supported under a folded arm. As I entered he smiled broadly and lifted his hand in blessing.
I looked around for a place to sit, but there was no chair in the room. Finally I just sat down on the corner of the bed. "N.K. said you want to see me", I began.
"Yes", he replied. "I just wanted to ask you if you've found God yet."
"No, I haven't".
With a hint of knowing irony in his voice, he said, "Under the tamarind tree you meditated on Rama."
"Yes, I did", I replied evenly. "That's my usual dhyana. I like to meditate on Rama, the ocean of mercy. He protects those who are weak."
His eyes bored into mine. "But why are you looking for God elsewhere when you sit with him now?"
I let a polite, thoughtful expression register on my face before telling him, "You are a holy man and my elder, and I am very low and sinful. I don't want to say anything improper to you, please understand, but - you are not God."
He nodded as I spoke, as if expecting my rejection of his divinity. "All right", he said when I finished, "as you see me, so I look. If you want to see me as God, I am God. If not, I'm not. But try to understand - that is what God is." He spoke a little more along this line, peppering his arguments with the usual Advaitist slogans.
I interrupted him. "Excuse me, but I've read all this in your Rama Katha book. Now, one time in there you say everybody is Rama, and another time you say that you are Rama. So what do you actually mean? Look, I know you are not Rama. Why don't you just tell your followers that everyone is Brahman? Isn't this your philosophy? If it is, then you should know that it is incorrect for you to say 'everyone is Rama' or 'I am Rama', because Rama is a person, and Brahman is impersonal."
"Yes", he replied in a patient tone of voice, as if indulging a wayward child. "But I have realized Brahman, and they have not."
I got a bit upset at this point. "Then you should make them realize it. But you deliberately keep them in a position inferior to yourself. You are pushing them down, not lifting them up. At great personal sacrifice they are coming here from many miles distant to wait outside for weeks and months just to catch a glimpse of you, and here you are, happily enjoying it all. Even ordinary politicians show more interest in their followers than you do. You just threw all those letters in the can. At least you could read them."
"Cool down, cool down", he waved languidly. "As soon as I touch those letters, I know what is in them, and I answer through their karma."
I stared at him in exasperation, hardly believing what I was hearing. "But karma is always happening. If you act through their karma, what do you need this ashram for? Why do they have to come here to see you? Please don't mind my boldness, but I am very disturbed by all this. When the curtain moves, these poor people are thinking you are there. They are so gullible, and I am sorry to say I think you are exploiting them."
"But I was there when the curtain moved", he said self-contentedly. "You sang Chitta Chora very nicely. I was there."
Now even more disappointed, I told him, "I know you have mystical powers. You see and hear things ordinary men cannot. So why don't you use your powers to remove their sufferings once and for all instead of playing them along like this? Why do you keep those who have surrendered to you in ignorance of their eternal spiritual existence? How will they ever get out of this miserable world of birth and death? Just giving earrings doesn't solve the problems of life."
"All right", he said, a hint of resignation in his voice, "you will understand later on." Then, changing the subject he asked, "You need any help here?"
"No, I am fully protected by God."
"You don't give that credit to me?"
"To some extent I do, because these people who are paying for me are your devotees. But I see it is my karma that is supplying my upkeep in this world. And that is true for all those people out there, and that is also true for you. You have a karma that allows you to sit there, and my karma allows me to sit here. If I had your karma and you had mine, I'd be the 'God' here, and you would be the frustrated one."
He didn't hear me. A change came over him and he sat up, his eyes unfocused and glittering. "I have to go down now", he said in a distant voice. "I will speak with you again." He quickly exited, leaving me in his room alone.
I decided to have a look around. Opening a closet in his bedroom, I found it filled with orange gowns. I wanted to find his stock of ash, having myself previously experimented with teleporting ash with the aid of a mantra. But the room was bare of anything save the bed and a few standard items.
So I sat upon the bed as he did, imitating his pose in jest and admiring myself in the bedroom mirror. Then I got up and looked from the balcony as he ran up and down the rows, generating mass hysteria. The police had to restrain people from mobbing him. Then he went onto the Shanti Vedika stage.
I suddenly felt sorry for him. "This man is like a puppet," I thought. "All these people think he's God, and he believes it himself - but he, and they, are just being guided by some higher force over which he has no control."
I went down to see what he was up to. Onstage, he had the crowd going in full swing. Arms upraised, he lead them in song, which they responded to in a riotous chorus. As the song ended he collapsed into a chair. He was worshiped with incense, lamp and flowers, like a murti in the temple. Then a group of Sanksrit pandits chanted the Rudram and Chamakam prayers, which are meant for Shiva, to him. This was too much for me. I walked out of the compound to my room.

On the morning of the ninth day I decided to go. I went to N.K. and shook his hand, saying, "Thank you and goodbye."
He was surprised: "You're going? I thought you would stay here. You sing so sweetly. We had one swamiji from Hrishikesh who also sang for Sai Baba, and Sai Baba took very nice care of him. He will take care of you too."
"God is taking care of me. What can Sai Baba do? Let him take care of himself first," was my quick reply. "You should watch out for his health - when he gets into those running moods, I think it isn't good for him."
"What?!" N.K. spluttered. "What is this you are telling?!"
"No, never mind, I didn't say anything", I reassured him, smiling brightly. I waved him off, saying "Sorry, I've got to go now", and went into the canteen to bid adieu to the manager.
Today there were only about a hundred people gathered at the darshan area. It had been announced that the Sai Baba would go to Bangalore; his big foreign-made automobile was ready at his private exit gate.
I went into the Mandir's ground-floor bhajan hall and made obeisances before the altar upon which the forms of Krishna, Satya-Narayana and Shiva were displayed. As I came out, I looked up and saw the Sai Baba motioning to me from the balcony.
I strode up the stairs and found him in the interview room sitting in a chair, his hands on the armrests. I entered, offered him my respects and took a chair facing him.
"So?" he smiled. "Going?"
"Yes," I smiled back.
"But you said you'd stay two weeks."
"Sorry, but I've become too dissatisfied here. I cannot bear to see these people anymore and all the suffering and anxiety they are putting themselves through for you."
"Do you know where you will go next?"
"No, I don't, but I hope to end up in a peaceful place."
All at once he rose from his seat, his eyes again glittering. He gazed down into my face and intoned meaningfully, "Until you find what you're looking for, you'll have no problem for food."
He lifted his right palm: "I will maintain you."
"For whatever you are doing for me," I replied, "I am very thankful. But I don't accept you as God."
In an odd voice he prophesized, "You yourself will become God." He moved his hand forward as if to give me vibhuti.
"No", I countered, "don't give me that ash. I don't want to take it from you like this. Just let me take it from the container."
"But why won't you take it from my hand?" he purred.
"Well", I grinned, "I know it doesn't originate from your hand, so let me take it from where it really comes."
"You're wrong. It does come from my hand", he insisted.
"Sorry", I grinned again. "I don't believe you. Let me take it from the container."
Without saying another word, he went into his quarters and brought out a small pot filled with ash. Holding it out to me he said simply, "Very well. If you want, take it from here." I sprinkled a bit on my head.
"Please go happily and remember my words to you."
I said, "Namaste," and got up to go. He spoke once more.
"You dislike me, don't you?"
"No, you're a nice man. Why should I dislike you?"
"When you find what you're looking for, you will dislike me," he said softly in that odd prophetic voice. He left me and I went downstairs and out of the compound.

Relieved to be departing the village, I walked out of town along the main road until I reached the highway. I turned to have my last sight of the ashram. Just then, the Sai Baba's big car glided out of the special gate, drove down the road and turned onto the highway in my direction.
The automobile sidled up next to me, its motor humming. In the back I saw the familiar smiling face ringed by the frizzy hairdo. Next to him was a well-known female singer in an expensive silk sari. As his electric window buzzed down, he told the driver to turn off the engine.
"I'm going to Bangalore", he called to me. "Would you like to come?"
"No," I told him. "Now I'm taking my own direction."
"But you don't know where you are going."
"That's true, but I am going nonetheless."
He turned to the lady and said, "He doesn't even know where he's going. He's just looking. I tell him to stay, but he says 'no, I am going.' I ask him where, he says 'I don't know.' All the time just looking, looking."
Then I said jokingly, "But like everybody, I am only looking for you."
Still speaking to the lady he said, "Everybody's looking for me to become themselves. He's looking for me to become myself."
I laughed, a bit embarrassed. I could see he knew my motivations all too well. He turned to me again. "Go to Jilallamuri and see Amma." Amma was a woman whom many said was an incarnation of a goddess. "You'll be very happy in Jilallamuri."
"How shall I get there?"
He said something to the lady. She took 25 rupees out of her handbag and handed the money to him, and he held it out to me.
"You have 25 rupees; it costs 23 rupees eighty to take a bus from here. Just go to the bus stand and wait."
Taking the money, I waved, "All right, so goodbye. This is the last time we'll see each other."
"No, we'll meet again," he said gaily. He told his driver to start the engine, and the window buzzed up. Then he was off.
I went to the bus station; the Jilallamuri bus soon came and I boarded it. Rolling through the parched landscape, I reflected on my recent experiences.

OK, that's all for now. After you read let your heart decide. I'm not going against Sai Baba. May be he is a very nice and good man. After all, he is also my revered elder. But for me HE ISN'T MY DEAR SUPREME LORD PARAMBRAHMAN, SHRI SHRINIVASA GOVINDA NARAYANA and never be...
 
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